What happened to TF.

[Telesphoreo]

It's literally just a hobby project and isn't our livelihood.

And this proves you have not dealt with the community at all. The community expects us to work on TF full time when we are all volunteers. Nothing is ever good enough for the community and the level of complaints literally does require it to be your livelihood. The fact that you say this means that you don't have TotalFreedom. Your server just has the name. It's not anything related to what TotalFreedom actually is and you never dealt with the community if you're saying that.

 

[Telesphoreo]

The fact xenforo lets you partially quote posts is hilarious for this very reason

One of the cool features with XenForo is that you can ban someone from replying to a certain thread. I fear that would kill the entertainment though.

 

[Panther]

And this proves you have not dealt with the community at all. The community expects us to work on TF full time when we are all volunteers. Nothing is ever good enough for the community and the level of complaints literally does require it to be your livelihood. The fact that you say this means that you don't have TotalFreedom.

That simply isn't true. If you genuinely think making a "good enough" Minecraft server is a task that takes your livelihood to do, you are proof of my point rather than yours. You have to see through the essentially meaningless gripes the community had about the server... at the end of the day, most people just want to have others online to interact with. That's why the community was more satisfied with the state of the server when it was an issue-ridden shithole than they were when it became more "refined" but the playerbase was festering away.

I get TotalFreedom is a unique case where the game format isn't really like other servers, but there's also hundreds of examples of servers that have done better recently and put in less effort. It's definitely possible, even with this group of people. The community has simply lacked a leader with the correct focus and ambitions in the right place. (Keep in mind, I am not saying that people were not putting in effort.)

 

[Telesphoreo]

I get TotalFreedom is a unique case

Wonderful. So the rest of your post describing generalizations is invalid and not applicable to this server. Hope this helps!

 

[Panther]

Wonderful. So the rest of your post describing generalizations is invalid and not applicable to this server. Hope this helps!

Looks like you didn't read the post. How is the way this specific community preferred the shithole 2014 version of the server a generalization?

 

[Telesphoreo]

Looks like you didn't read the post. How is the way this specific community preferred the shithole 2014 version of the server a generalization?

 

[Panther]

Out of arguments, huh?

 

[Luke]

Out of arguments

Thought so, it's why you told me I was right I thought

 

[Telesphoreo]

Out of arguments, huh?

No, what you wrote was just an incomprehensible word salad. Try again, buddy.

 

[AdaLux]

tf really is the byzantine empire of servers bc its literally fully dead and people r still arguing about it ijbol

 

[Panther]

No, what you wrote was just an incomprehensible word salad. Try again, buddy.

You're dodging writing an actual response by pretending that the idea that management took the wrong approach toward running a server is "incomprehensible." This type of no-can-do attitude is exactly what I'm talking about - this seems to be a big reason why the server managed by the group of staff in question is no longer running.

 

[Telesphoreo]

You're dodging writing an actual response by pretending that the idea that management took the wrong approach toward running a server is "incomprehensible." This type of no-can-do attitude is exactly what I'm talking about - this seems to be a big reason why the server managed by the group of staff in question is no longer running.

You think you run yours well but that's because you have a dead server. You only need one person to run a dead server. You never had anyone from TFR join your server so the issues with the community aren't apparent to you. It's not purely a management issue and if it was then we would've had a perfect owner to rule them all by now

 

[Luke]

oh fuck off panther jesus fucking christ youre plugging a dead server on an even deader server

who fucking cares if you think you run things better, jesus christ man stop being such a cunt for once in your life

the year is 2084, between the global warming crisis and the nukes the world is fucked, and the last traces of humanity still cling on.

Donald Trump the 2nd, current king of America, goes to his trusted advisors on how to worst handle the situation. He turns to Panther, who simply replies 'If *I* was king, *I* would have done things better.'

humanity perishes as Panther cackles, living in a world of what-ifs and never-weres, always quick to criticise but never capable of actually doing the shit he says he'd do

 

[Panther]

It's not purely a management issue and if it was then we would've had a perfect owner to rule them all by now

We had an owner to rule them all. His name was Mark. He wasn't perfect, but he took an approach that's more similar to mine than whatever the fuck you guys were doing when the server died.

humanity perishes as Panther cackles, living in a world of what-ifs and never-weres, always quick to criticise but never capable of actually doing the shit he says he'd do

You'd be in a position to say this if you weren't the one defending the idea of doing nothing. I'm the one who's doing anything at all right now while you guys sit there and make excuses to not do so yourself.

 

[Telesphoreo]

We had an owner to rule them all. His name was Mark. He wasn't perfect, but he took an approach that's more similar to mine than whatever the fuck you guys were doing when the server died.

I disagree. You have no players so whatever approach you're taking clearly isn't working.

You'd be in a position to say this if you weren't the one defending the idea of doing nothing. I'm the one who's doing anything at all right now while you guys sit there and make excuses to not do so yourself.

We literally did something. We were the ones to start TF:R. WTF do you mean we didn't do anything? We were the ones who started, ran, maintained, and created new policies for TF:R. You have nothing to maintain. Your server doesn't get used so of course it can sit there dormant restarting every hour. It'd be different if you actively had issues and showed us how you were mitigating them, but what you're saying is that your server where nothing ever happens is supposed to prove it can be done.

 

[Taah]

mfs be bringing back tf lookin like

 

[Taah]

Telesphoreo and Taahanis decided to re-open TF for it's birthday.

alr what the flip

 

[Telesphoreo]

alr what the flip

bro did not know about the tf birthday event until the server was already online

 

[Taah]

We had an owner to rule them all. His name was Mark. He wasn't perfect, but he took an approach that's more similar to mine than whatever the fuck you guys were doing when the server died.



You'd be in a position to say this if you weren't the one defending the idea of doing nothing. I'm the one who's doing anything at all right now while you guys sit there and make excuses to not do so yourself.

we continued the server with the actual community, you're running nothing but a mere server in hopes people will join but the difference is that we actually had the tf community and dealt with it, you're dealing with nothing but server costs and bug fixes lol

 

[Taah]

bro did not know about the tf birthday event until the server was already online

legit i read the msgs like a day before and was like alr bet