What happened to TF.

[Luke]

you guys sit there and make excuses to not do so yourself.

yk this sentence alone sums up the entirety of my issue with TF.

1) TF is the people, not the server. you are not doing anything to do with TF. you have a server you've named TF but the community (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with ours. you do not have the same issues we do, primarily because you don't get any players but because your server is not TF.

2) Myself, Taahanis, Telesphoreo, Ryan, Seth, Windows, Markbyron, owe you, or anyone else, nothing. we do not need an 'excuse', we do not need your approval and we certainly don't need to justify moving on with our own lives to you. again, we owe you (and everybody else) absolutely nothing.

your sentiment is shared. not the stupid ass 'i could do better', but the 'you make excuses to not do stuff'. people don't understand that this is a hobby, something you are meant to do for fun. people for some reason see taah and Telesphoreo's jobs as obligations, necessities. remember folks, we're all real people with real lives. we shouldn't need to justify wanting to move on.

 

[Taah]

yk this sentence alone sums up the entirety of my issue with TF.

1) TF is the people, not the server. you are not doing anything to do with TF. you have a server you've named TF but the community (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with ours. you do not have the same issues we do, primarily because you don't get any players but because your server is not TF.

2) Myself, Taahanis, Telesphoreo, Ryan, Seth, Windows, Markbyron, owe you, or anyone else, nothing. we do not need an 'excuse', we do not need your approval and we certainly don't need to justify moving on with our own lives to you. again, we owe you (and everybody else) absolutely nothing.

your sentiment is shared. not the stupid ass 'i could do better', but the 'you make excuses to not do stuff'. people don't understand that this is a hobby, something you are meant to do for fun. people for some reason see taah and Telesphoreo's jobs as obligations, necessities. remember folks, we're all real people with real lives. we shouldn't need to justify wanting to move on.

wtfrick i was obligated and peer pressured wdym.....,,,,????
kidding it was @video's make a wish to bring tf back he has terminal illness rip

 

[Panther]

2) Myself, Taahanis, Telesphoreo, Ryan, Seth, Windows, Markbyron, owe you, or anyone else, nothing. we do not need an 'excuse', we do not need your approval and we certainly don't need to justify moving on with our own lives to you. again, we owe you (and everybody else) absolutely nothing.

It's true that you don't really owe anything to the community, but if you're really going to do nothing, you don't get to act like you're some sort of saint who tried to create a place for the community in TF:R and then was betrayed. I really don't think you or any of the staff deserve to be able to complain about the community so much. Somehow, it's impossible in your mind that you and the staff just took the wrong approach and didn't look closely enough about what actually made people come to the server in the first place. To you guys, it's like the amount of effort you put in should directly correlate to the community liking the server, when in reality, that's never how it worked.

This community was built on the base of a server that allowed them a place where they could cause a little mischief and witness the spectacle of others' stupidity and poor decision-making. It's the only reason TotalFreedom wasn't like every other forgettable Minecraft server. I can tell you with 100% certainty if you had placed in 2014 the "improved" version of TF with actual rules and the patches and whatever else you guys put in so much unnecessary effort to do, I would have left immediately and never came back. And pretty much everyone else would have too. The server would have died years earlier. These things you guys think are improvements to the server that take hard work actually just make the server unremarkable and similar to every single other lame, watered-down creative server in existence. It's extremely obvious that's why it never had success past the point where these changes were made; TF abandoned the core principles that originally made it interesting.

The community liked the server most when it was a poorly secured, loosely managed dump. How long has it been that you guys have been brushing off anything the community complains about as "the community always wants more and can never be satisfied?" It's no wonder that people display a distaste and hatred towards this ridiculous attitude that results in the toxicity you created this thread to complain about in the first place. To me, none of you have the right to complain until you actually nut the fuck up, purge the ban list, and just allow the community to be the shit show it is supposed to be. That's why I am still talking about the idea of anarchy on this forgotten husk of a forum.

You want to move on? Move on. But don't act like you righteously fought for the community and for TotalFreedom. You fought for your and the staff's vision of a regular ass creative server that had absolutely nothing to do with what makes TotalFreedom actually interesting, and dragged along the dying community for the ride.

 

[Taah]

It's true that you don't really owe anything to the community, but if you're really going to do nothing, you don't get to act like you're some sort of saint who tried to create a place for the community in TF:R and then was betrayed. I really don't think you or any of the staff deserve to be able to complain about the community so much. Somehow, it's impossible in your mind that you and the staff just took the wrong approach and didn't look closely enough about what actually made people come to the server in the first place. To you guys, it's like the amount of effort you put in should directly correlate to the community liking the server, when in reality, that's never how it worked.

This community was built on the base of a server that allowed them a place where they could cause a little mischief and witness the spectacle of others' stupidity and poor decision-making. It's the only reason TotalFreedom wasn't like every other forgettable Minecraft server. I can tell you with 100% certainty if you had placed in 2014 the "improved" version of TF with actual rules and the patches and whatever else you guys put in so much unnecessary effort to do, I would have left immediately and never came back. And pretty much everyone else would have too. The server would have died years earlier. These things you guys think are improvements to the server that take hard work actually just make the server unremarkable and similar to every single other lame, watered-down creative server in existence. It's extremely obvious that's why it never had success past the point where these changes were made; TF abandoned the core principles that originally made it interesting.

The community liked the server most when it was a poorly secured, loosely managed dump. How long has it been that you guys have been brushing off anything the community complains about as "the community always wants more and can never be satisfied?" It's no wonder that people display a distaste and hatred towards this ridiculous attitude that results in the toxicity you created this thread to complain about in the first place. To me, none of you have the right to complain until you actually nut the fuck up, purge the ban list, and just allow the community to be the shit show it is supposed to be. That's why I am still talking about the idea of anarchy on this forgotten husk of a forum.

You want to move on? Move on. But don't act like you righteously fought for the community and for TotalFreedom. You fought for your and the staff's vision of a regular ass creative server that had absolutely nothing to do with what makes TotalFreedom actually interesting, and dragged along the dying community for the ride.

this is one of the dumbest things i've read on tf LOL

community wasnt built on mischief and shit, we had an inactive dev team with a shitty pipeline for development when mark and anyone before ryan ran it which led to delayed updates and exploits everywhere. ryan improved development and then we improved it again. rules always existed whether you wanna believe it or not, considering the amount of times you were on the ban list. tf is not an anarchy server and you can yap about it as much as you want, it isn't going to become any more true.

and yeah, we did fight for tf. i literally was awake at 3am talking to ryan to not shut us down. our executive team has dealt with constant bullshit from players. the server was good when we were young, people have ruined it. accept that you won't create a new generation and accept that this whole anarchy idea won't succeed (hint: it isn't already..!)

we implemented constant features to allow shit, we made a whole new plugin to make development shit loads easier, we have a whole server software to patch exploits so people can actually play the game. if you think that's bullshit you are unfit to make any sort of stance or opinion against my team and myself. you sound like another person with a superiority complex thinking we ran it like shit. no we didn't. if multiple owners can agree to this then realize there is some truth to it. do not talk about what my staff deserve to complain about when it was them who were here to help keep the server alive and you were hiding in the shadows.