Trump Wins the 2024 Election

[Telesphoreo]

What are all of your thoughts? I'm somewhat shocked Trump won the popular vote by so much. I expected it to be much closer since this is the first time a lot of Gen Z is able to vote. Gen Z does tend to be more left, but who knows, honestly.

I think the Democrats fucked up big time calling everyone who didn't vote for Kamala stupid and fascists and Nazis. Why would you vote for a candidate like that if that's how you're treated by their supporters? I also think there's a growing sentiment in a lot of people that we want less government. It's clear it's corrupt, too beaurocratic, and bleeding money on shit we don't need to. Now is not a great time to try and get the government more involved in our lives given that sentiment.

I also know the majority of people simply don't like Kamala. Her personality felt fake with the accents and honestly a lot of people think she's just straight up obnoxious. Not saying Trump isn't full of lies either though.

I'm still in shock he won by such a big margin. What are your thoughts?

 

[fres]

america lost

 

[darwin]

America would've lost either way

 

[videogamesm12]

I'm not a fan of him, but that doesn't change the fact that he won the election fair and square. I'm disappointed that Americans chose this guy to run our country despite his disastrous initial handling of COVID-19, the downright batshit rhetoric he spews on his retarded social media all the time, his refusal to admit any form of responsibility in what happened on January 6, 2021 (to the point where he's even calling it a plot staged by the Deep State, lmao), and so on, but whatever.

I think the Democrats fucked up big time calling everyone who didn't vote for Kamala stupid and fascists and Nazis. Why would you vote for a candidate like that if that's how you're treated by their supporters?

This is a problem that has plagued the loud minority of the Democrats since at least 2016, but I don't think that was their biggest mistake. It was certainly a part of it, but if it was really that bad then it should have costed them the election in 2020 when anti-Trump sentiment was at an all-time high, but it didn't. To me, their biggest mistake was banking on Biden for years and then being forced to switch candidates at the last minute after ignoring his increasingly clear cognitive decline for so long. That and the growing economic shitshow probably greatly contributed to the growing sentiment that the Democrats are extremely clumsy and have no idea what they were doing.

I also think there's a growing sentiment in a lot of people that we want less government. It's clear it's corrupt, too beaurocratic, and bleeding money on shit we don't need to. Now is not a great time to try and get the government more involved in our lives given that sentiment.

This is something I agree with to a point. Something I've noticed is that while some federal policies make sense for smaller and denser countries like New York City or Washington DC for one reason or another, they don't make sense in more suburban/urban parts of the country with different roles in our economy and scale poorly as a result. The political landscape is just completely different in states like Texas or Wyoming than California. Giving the states the ability to decide those policies for themselves does make sense for some cases but that too has its own issues when it comes to moral issues. This is a topic for another discussion, however.

I don't think Trump will be able to cleanly accomplish this in a single term and in fact some of the points in his platform seem to even contradict this. His platform states things like "keeping men out of women's sports" and discusses cutting funding for schools pushing "critical race theory", but that means getting involved in our lives more, not less. Plus, you need to be careful what you gut and what you don't because some sectors have regulations for a reason and history has taught us that recklessly compromising regulations in favor of speed/efficiency almost never works out well in the long term.